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Micho, i don't get the second point.
Fouad seems to be very busy, that he wrote 2 words and left.


Jana,
Je pense que la croix que nous devons porter si on veut LE suivre, c'est nous qui chisissons de la porter, librement
et avoir un enfant anormale, ce n'est personne qui l'a choisi.il est imposé pour ses parents.
Néanmoins, si tu veux dire, que "ne pas avorter et accepter l'enfant avec toutes les peines qui vont suivre, ceci pourrra etre considéré comme croix que je porte, librement (car la mere aurait pu avorter) pour suivre le Christ" avec ceci je suis d'accord

oui rami c'est ca puisque la femme a fait un libre choix en gardant son bebe meme si elle va soufrir a cause de lui.

our way to GOD is not vertical it's both Horizontal (through the "other") and vertical (towards HIM). i know that the cross is to deny ourselves and our material concerns and our desires etc.. to follow the christ (that's the vertical way i guess) but we should not limit the cross to just one meaning, jesus suffered when he beard the cross but he suffered to save us and the parents will suffer while raising their child but they'll do it in order to reach the kingdom of God (the "other" i talked about is the child in our discussion)
that's what i meant by cross.

hope i explained my point properly coz ijmelan bkhabbis:lol!:
peace

hello ...
a phrase that can define the cross is: "li takon machi2atak kama fil sama2 kazalika 3ala al ard". cad :litakon machi2atak la machi2ati;
je pense alors que pour cette chose la; que l'enfant anormale peut etre un croix ou non , 7assab ahlou;
c a dire : si on a pas de probleme que notre enfant soit anormale alors ce n'est pas un croix.
si on a un probleme et on n'a pas fait l'aborion parce qu' on aime dieu ,alors on a fait un sacrifice dans ce cas ,et parsuite l'enfant est un croix.
en fin je veux dire merci jana la2enou 3meltilna refresh lal subjects.

tekram 3aynak lallous;)

bass 3nde sou2al lal kill: leh ma fi 7ada jdid bil forum? inno la7azet inno henne zeton lli byeketbo ma byetghayaro wala bizidou! chou leziim na3mel??
peace

ettafa2na enou n7et e3len 3an el forum bi al karma, ra3iyati, al bichara, and bachir had written it.(10x bachir).
and we have to inform all our friends bel frou3 wel markaz.

ya jana , the answer to ur question is so easy!
it seems ino bas l 3alam yalli ma 3enda chaghli wala 3amli are writing in this topic! minni w jerr!
so min halla2 la nle2i a better thing to do , we will still post our replies here! luckily we have something to do while we r still unemployed!

ouffffffff!!!
ye3ni marju khelaytini hiss bil fakher !! lol!!

michel , I wouldnt be the first one to do that!
plz dont give me that credit!
at least u got a job!
I still dont have anything!

well marju i don't think that's the reason;) i'm employed but i try to find some time to post;) and i hope when u get a job u carry on posting coz ur ideas are very interesting

maybe the reason is the lack of awareness or that the brothers are not interested for the first reason thanks guys for informing everyone (thx bachir coz u wrote it) we'll have to wait till everyone is informed to see if they'll be interested
peace

LOL me 3ala alrasoul illa albalegh im not in lebanon so intou balghou 3anni wyiyyyyyyyyyy shou byousal aw iza wisil sou biriddou

Jana tu postes pendant la pause ou pendant le temps de travail comme je le fais?

in fact i think " touba lilkati3 al saghir" no problem!!!

well i post in work time:lol!:
droure tofda7ne;)