christians in war

hello all
well a question crossed my mind but i couldn't answer it!
"IS IT A SIN FOR A CHRISTIAN TO JOIN THE ARMY?"(I'm asking this because IT'S THE ARMY'S DUTY TO PROTECT THE NATION ALSO IT'S ITS DUTY TO KILL THE TERRORISTS-as it's happening nowadays-SO IF A CHRISTIAN WANTED TO JOIN THE ARMY HE SHOULD SOMETIMES KILL!) SO WHAT DO U THINK ABOUT A CHRISTIAN SOLDIER IN WAR???
peace

hello jana ;
le soldat dans l'armee doit faire son affaire.
3alayh an you2adi wajibahou bel kamel, and when he kills someone , la yakder an yatanawal li fatra mou3ayana you7adidouha ma3 abouh al rou7i , aw morchidoh ,aw kahen ya3rifoh ....but lezim y2adi wejbou!

jana biltalbeh elsalemiyeh elkoubra we say:
min ajl loubnen wjoundah wkoul sha3bahou, ba2a shou 2awlik

Les peres de l'eglise était divisés pour ce sujet, certains pour d'autres contre.
Meme, à une époque donnée, si j'étais pas tort, un chrétien ne lui était pas permi de joindre l'armée, sous peine d'être mis hors de l'église.
Apres tout, on sait ou l'on va en joindre l'armée....

SO AS I NOTICED WE ARE ALL WITH THE ARMY AND WHAT'S HAPPENING(ALLA YE7ME JAYCHNA W YONSRO)
NOW WHAT DO U THINK ABOUT THE FAT7 L ISLAM? I MEAN HOW DO U VIEW THEM? HOW CAN WE-AS CHRISTIANS- DEAL WITH SUCH TERRORISTS? JESUS SAID "A7IBBOU A3DA2AKOM"! HOW CAN WE DO IT?(I, PERSONNALY "HATE" THEM!!!)[/b]

no politics here plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..... ba3denm byitla3ou 3lana fat7 el2islem wbisakrou elforum iza ma hadan fajar nafsou ibtihejan kamen

ma 7ada jeb siret l politics bach i was asking "maw2afkon" ka masi7ye min hal erhebye law chou ma ken esmon(bass se2abo hon fate7 l isalam) w law min ma ken warahon

hello
ne7na men din a3melon , wlezim akid yetwa2afou wyet3akabo coz henni khatar 3al moujtama3 , lezim 7ajzon 3an el moujtama3.
bass for ur questions i think enou ma lezim nekrahon, bass ner2af la 7alon , wna3mol el lezim yen3amal ma3on... iza sa7 el ta3bir...

jana ana kinit 3am bimzah hehe

jaweb: allah youhibb elkhati2 wayakrah elkhati2a

kif mne2dir ner2af la 7alon elias???? ma ana manne tay2eton w sara7a betmanna killon ymouto(w yemken hay khatye)

bach ba3ref kenet 3am temza7 bass 7ewalet le2e nekte ta oula ma zabatit ma3e yalla basita tene marra

no jana , ma tefhamini ghalat , ma assdi enou mne3tof 3layon , assdi mner2af lal 7aleh yalli wessloula men el char , enou ma32oul el enssen yetla3 meno kel hal chi , dans ce sens , akid ma be3tof 3layon!! tssawari!!!3ala fekra henni 7addi ana ssekin bel minieh :p

yiiiiiiiii
laken u shoul take good care elias
god bless u and all the people living near u

merci jana .
in christ

I think against our enemy we must always pray!!!
we must pray that the evil in them die!!
and we pray that a new man can be born in them!!!

i agree totally with u mich

ma dem el2insen 3am yitnafas ma lezim ni2ta3 el2amal.
allah kbir
w2allah roummmmmmmm

allah ma7abeh .
je refuse des tels expressions bachir .:"w2allah roummmmmmmm". haydi 3ibarat ta2ifieh qui n'a aucune relation avec l'eglise orthodoxe et parsuite avec dieu

sorry elie .. ana kinit 3am bimzah u know this is not the way i think

ya 7aram ya bach ma 7ada 3am yefhamlak rasak
yalla basita tawwil belak
ana 3arfe innak kenet 3am temza7
7elo l wa7ad yemza7 aw2at ma hek elias
yalla take care

YA 2ALLA ya jana mni7 elli 2inti honnnnnnnnnnnn...

tayib allah ma7abeh ma tiz3al ya elias

akid jana .
7abibi bachir.3ala rasseh.

Hi all,

In the subject of war, as rami said, The fathers have many opinions. and sometimes opposites opinions, as in lots of other important issues.

I agree with michel Dib on what he said, but something that Elie Safatly said earlier raised in me some questions:

How do i pray for the soldier for defending me, then if he did that by killing someone, which is normal in order to defend me, he has to stop mounawale; there is a bit of contreversy in here, although i understand that he needs to reach the peace of thoughts in order to be able of tanewol again, but i still sence some contreversy,

Alla Ye7mi el Jami3

welcome michel
l abouna bil ra3ye 3enna 2al bil wa3za l a7ad "iza l masi7e 3am bi7areb ta ykhalles nafso khalli ymout a7san bass iza ken 3am bi7areb ta ydefe3 3an nes bi 7imeyto se3eta baddo yna2e ben chaghelten : ya baddo ye2tol l mou3tadi w bikoun katel ya bimout houe w bikoun charik lal mou3tadi bil 2atel = katel, se3eta bina2e inno ydefe3 3an l nes lli bi7imeyto"
what do u think about that?

ya ahla bi michel
mon idee est que : si quelqu'un sar ma3ou mechkel aw khne2a , bissir modtareb nafssian est il besoin de temps pour reprendre le repos kif iza ken bi ma3rakkeh wa2atel wadareb 3al mecheh??
pour cela il faut qu'il recoit le temps necessaire pour se preparer li tanawol jassad al rab.

hi michel, i posed the same question in mind!!!
my answer (for myself), was that what the soldier do in killing is the best what a human can do (as Jana explain before), but it still wrong... we can say " Ahsan al 7aram" Aw " Abghad el 7alel" so i agree after all that these soldier must i3teref or do something else... after all, whatever the reason for killing (even if it's accepted) we can't let it pass as normal think. we stop and think in it...
but the problem is do we have the right to pray for it.... or we answer ourself by saying we are praying to God to help us in defending ourself which does not mean directly killing others!!! i don't know!!!